“Case of Fr.D.Oko and Fr. J. Stöhr“ and “Let's make a movie!”
Case of Fr.D.Oko and Fr. J. Stöhr
In 2021, following a complaint filed by a dissident German priest Wolfgang Rothe, the District Court of Cologne (Germany) decided that an article “On the need to curb homosexual cliques in Church” published in a scientific journal “Theologisches“ constituted “incitement to hatred” against homosexuals. The author of the article, Polish roman catholic priest prof. Dariusz Oko Ph.D. is a philosopher at the Pontifical University of John Paul II in Kraków (Poland). He earlier published a book “The Lavender Mafia“ in Poland on this and the related subjects. The journal “Theologisches“ (theologisches.net) is a scientific, theological journal.
In the article, the author descibes the homosexual lobby operating within the Roman Catholic Church, highlights cases of abuse by homosexual clergy and detailed the mechanisms used by what he calls ‘homoclans’, ‘homomafia’ or ‘lavender mafia’ of predatory clerics to avoid accountability. Fr. D.Oko describes such clerics as “a colony of parasites” and as a “homosexual plague” or a “cancer that is even ready to kill its host“. “I collect known facts about homosexuals in cassocks and their habits… The ‘lavender mafia’ ”plays a similar role to the mafia in Sicily,” said Fr. D.Oko.
An initial ruling of the Court sentenced Fr. D. Oko to pay a fine of 4,800 euros or serve 120 days in jail. Fr. Johannes Stöhr, the almost-92-year-old (!) German priest and editor-in-chief of the journal was also fined. Both priests objected to the penal orders.
“Is the criticism of the criminal activity of the Sicilian mafia an incitement to hatred against all Sicilians? So how can an academic reflection on the challenge of a criminal network connected with homosexual practices in the Church be an incitement to hatred against all homosexuals?” Fr. D.Oko commented.
International petition to support these two priests was signed by (env.) 85,000 people.
On 20th of May, 2022, the main hearing took place in Cologne. The judge Sophie Schwartz said she did not question the priest's findings on the activities of the "lavender mafia". However she pointed out that Fr. D.Oko should not use certain phrases in his works. Nonetheless, Gerhard Müller, German cardinal and the former prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith in Vatican said about this case: “Condemning those crimes with strong language far from inciting society to hatred is an act of courage which deserves respect by all decent people“.
Fr. D. Oko apologized for having used 'such strong’ statement and agreed to pay 3,150 euros to a charity… His editor Fr. J. Stöhr agreed to pay 4,000 euros, to a charity too… So an agreement was reached, the prosecutor Ulf Willuhn withdrew from the indictment and the court stopped the proceedings. The judge droped the case ( see ,  for more details).
What prompted Fr.D.Oko to accepted such arrangement ? As you can see the agreed terms are not very different of initial judgement... What made him agree ? For some, the change on the position of Fr.D.Oko must have come as a surprise. He assured earlier of his willingness to continue his legal fight and said : “I am … determined, despite the fact that the Germans forbide me, to save the seminarians from homocliques.” “I’m ready for jail“ ! So, he changed his mind – but why ? Presumably he hopes that in such a way there is no legal obstacles to publish his article and the German translation of his book (let’s hope that not in vain that at the last moment some new, unexpected obstacle will not appear). Likely he felt that he had to do so, in order to continue spreading his views in legal way… So he just adopted his tactics to the actual circumstances ? Something must have made it clear to him. What could it have been ? What happened ???
Maybe this (I guess) :
on the eve of the trial i.e. the 19th of May 2022 a very unusual event took place occured : “Deutsche Welle“ published an interview with Wolfgang Rothe i.e. with the plaintiff whose complaint resulted in the trial , .
What is “Deutsche Welle“ ? It’s Germany’s public international broadcaster, a company financed by gouverment tax resources . It’s a German equivalent of “Voice of America“, “Radio France
International“, “BBC“ and so on. As you may expect, “Voice of America“ presents rather American point of view, “Radio France International“ - French one and “ BBC“ - British. Similary “Deutsche Welle“, presents German point of view… (Note also, by the way, that « The planning of the activity of “Deutsche Welle“ is fixed by Bundestag, the German parlament ). In other words this company could also be considered or to be called “Voice of Germany“.
And “Deutsche Welle“ is a very, very important, very rich, powerfull company indeed: 4,000 employees of more than 140 nationalities… journalistic content in 32 langages… TV channels in English, Arabic, Spanish and German;the digital content in 30 languages (Facebook, YouTube… ). The 24-hour English language TV channel is available worldwide. TV usage reaches 117 million contacts per week…
You have to be well aware of what that means. “Deutsche Welle“ (“Voice of Germany“ !) openly prefers one side in a legal dispute that has not yet been resolved ! So important worldwide publisher wants the allegations of the accuser to be widely known, promotes him, makes him such big publicity and gives him the opportunity to present his accusations partisanly !!! Just imagine this happened to you. Imagine you had a legal dispute with someone and on the eve of the trial such a powerful publisher like “Deutsche Welle“ allied with your opponent... And backed up his as yet unconfirmed and maybe biased accusations with such authority ! How would you feel, if you were in the shoes of Fr. D.Oko? Isn’t that most amazing ? It’s really extraordinary (judge by yourself) !
So who is Fr. Wolfgang Rothe, this ‘protégé’, preferred or favorite of the “Deutsche Welle“ ?
In such exceptional way highlighted by “Voice of Germany“… We need to take a closer look at him.
He is also known as „Whiskey-Vikar“ : „he is considered an expert on Scotch whiskey and is known for combining this knowledge with spiritual topics lectures and publications…“ . From 2002 r. he was secretary of Kurt Krenn, bishop of St. Pölten, in Austria (not far from Vienna) – in fact, he was ordained by him. And what about the bishop of St. Pölten? „...The ... theologian Paul Zulehner explained in an interview with Die Welt that Kurt Krenn was addicted to alcohol and therefore could no longer carry out his official duties properly… Krenn had previously undergone rehab for alcohol addiction in a Munich clinic…” . P.Zulehner (he teaches at Vienna University) also said : „His health is very bad. I doubt whether he can ever assume the responsibility of a bishop for the thing that he himself has helped to cause”, . Does this fact have anything to do with Wolfgang Rothe’s nickname?
Wolfgang Rothe held also the post of deputy rector at the St. Pölten seminary in Austria (from 2003). Fr. Ulrich Küchl was then rector. Both german priests are said to be close to the Bishop Kurt Krenn (he invited them to join his diocese). Since 2010 r Wolfgang Rothe has started to openly propagate his homosexuality . In Nov 2021 r a journalist from BBC interviewed him in a - ‘gay sauna’ . Do you know what’s ‘gay sauna’ ? “A gay bathhouse, also known as a gay sauna or a gay steambath is a commercial space for gay, bisexual, and other men to have sex with men…“ . Wolfgang Rothe himself recalls the meeting as follows : “ ...today I blessed a couple gay on the roof-terrace of ‘Deutsche Eiche’...“ (‘Deutsche Eiche’ one of the most popular gay meeting spot in Munchen). But such high-lying places as ‘roof-terrace’may be risky, dangerous for him !. He should rather avoid them… Because – according to : “ ...that night he (i.e.„Whiskey-Vikar“) fell off the balcony of his second-floor flat, having drunk a good deal of alcohol. He suffered concussion and a broken hand and now says he can remember nothing about that night... “ .
But let’s get to the point, let’s stick to the topic, i.e. St. Pölten seminary. One would expect that the atmosphere in such an institution (even if not really ascetic), would rather be conducive to spiritual development and study. But it was not the case. According to  p.145: “ ...The story really begins on 10 Nov. 2003, when technical experts working on a computer available for common use at St. Pölten seminary discovered that pornographic material had been downloaded and reported this discovery to seminary director Ulrich Küchl. On 27 Nov., twenty-nine boarding students at the seminary petitioned Kuchl to investigate this…“ .
It is worth noting that nothing happened there between 10 nov and 27 novembre ! Finally, after 2 weeks, the students filed a petition to the rector: apparently they feared that the problem of the ‘pornographic material’ would be ‘ swept under the carpet ‘ i.e.ignored ! (they will later/also go so far as to anonymously send some compromising photos to newspapers, to the bishop, etc.with attached following words : “ ...please act for the good of cthe Church. Those who suffer from the scandal tell you ‘Thank you’... “ ). And this petition seems to have achieved its goal : “ ...The next day Küchl… informed the State Attorney... “ . The worldwide scandal involving allegations of sexual abuse surfaced in Austria… The police and church investigation was instigated after students “ decided to put an end to years of silence about the activities that went on at the seminary “. More than 40000 (forty thousands) photos and porno movies were found : child pornography (it’s a crime in Austria)..., acts of pedophilia and bestiality (a rape of 5 years old boy, sex with animals…) and so on, and so on…
Also other pictures of the rector (provost) and his deputy caressing and kissing student priests at a seminary - purportedly at Christmas gathering - were published... “ One of this photo induced much subsequent speculation mainly in the USA about the nature of the kiss in question, and whether it was, in fact, what Americans would call a ‘French kiss’ “ . You can still see two of this photo here: .
Austrian weekly “ Profil “ (profil.au) reported that “ both the rector and his deputy had homosexual relations with students, using pedophile photos for stimulation... “ , “ ...The stories that emerged about Küchl and Rothe alleged participation in orgies with their seminarian students... “ , “ Subsequently, several other photographs were circulated and published by the media... “ , (for ex. the rector Küchl touching the fly of a seminarian student !). Bishop Kurt Krenn asserted that it was “a which-hunt against his person “ and “ a picture showing Rothe kissing a young seminarian had absolutely nothing to do with homosexuality and was merely the kind of ‘idiocy’ boys get up to… “ That the photos of priests kissing and fondling were just ‘Bubendummiheiten’ (‘childish pranks, youthful pranks’). And questioned openly their authenticity (had they been altered by means of computer technology?) But in vain… This is how this enormous scandal broke out… One of the most important scandal in catholic church in modern times...
Also an ex-seminarian accused the rector Ulrich Küchl of homosexual behavior...
It’s also interesting to note that ‘Frau Propstin’ was a nickname of Fr Ulrich Küchl, the rector of the seminary . Herr Rektor Küchl was referred to as ‘Frau Propstin / Mrs Provost’ by his young favorites : “Frau Propstin in der Sakristei / Mrs Provost in the sacristy “ used to say seminarians...
So ‘Whiskey-Vikar’ – was the deputy of ‘Frau Propstin’ - isn’t that funny ?
The daily practice in the hothouse atmosphere behind the seminary walls was very special indeed :
“ Homosexual passion and jealousy ruled the day, embedded in a complex, interpersonal dynamic between favorites and outsiders “ , “funny drunken evenings “ (some students fled to the attic to sleep peacefully there), “perverse ceremonies blessing male couples“… There have been scenes of jealousy, intrigue, betrayal and psycho-terror… Ulrich Küchl (Mrs. Provost) “had allegedly brought those who counted as his favorites with him to his Eisgarn residence on the weekends “. There have been sometimes permutations of favorites between gay couples… And : “Those who had allegedly objected to these goings-on were harassed and threatened “ !
“Neither Ulrich Küchl or Wolfgang Rothe were prepared to admit they were practising homosexuals “ . They claimed their ignorance, that they were not involved… And finally they had resigned without admitting any guilt !
How could the management not know what was going on in a such small group of students living together in one place ? In this kind of institution seminarian students are usually under close observation. All of student-priests must go to confession and each has his own spiritual director… These two, ‘Frau Propstin’ and his (her?) deputy ‘Whiskey-Vikar’ obviously think we all are idiots (they insults my intelligence !). And yet he managed to convince many of his ignorance… Even today, the Wikipedia states that : “neither state nor church investigations have revealed the misconduct of Dr Rothe that should be punished... “. And about Ulrich Küchl : “He always denied the allegations against him and still does today “ 
Wolfgang Rothe very judiciously delayed his ‘coming out’ until 2010. Only then did he publicly reveal his homosexuality - six years later ! If it had been known in 2004, who would have readily believed in his innocence ? If Wolfgang Rothe had already blessed homosexual couples, if he had already visited sauna gay then, as he does today, who would believe in his ignorance ?
Bishop Kurt Krenn, who initially ruled out his resignation, finally understood that he had no other option. The Vatican informed 7th of oct 2004 that his resignation was accepted for « serious misconduct ».
Klaus Küng, the new bishop of St Pölten tried to convince Wolfgang Rothe to resign from the priesthood on the voluntary basis without success… “The saddest thing at the St Pölten seminary, Bishop Küng said, was that the homosexual atmosphere there had put off heterosexual candidates “
“ Deutsche Welle “ already wrote about Wolfgang Rothe earlier [(as did all important media around the world)] on the occasion of “the scandal of St Pölten seminary “ . He is their old acquaintance…
In fact, the scandal started 10 days before the photos were discovered – and there is also a mysterious death in this case… According to  p.146 : “...On 31 Oct.2003, fifty-three year-old seminarian from St.Pölten, Ewald S., was find dead in the Alten Donau (a backwater of the Danube near Vienna). Police listed the official cause of death as drowning, but did not completely rule out foul play… “. And it was rumored to be a murder ! It’s worth remembering that before he was led to death in one or another way ( p.153 : “ ...Ewald S… was subsequently driven to his death... “) , he still managed to confide in someone that there were three «evil» people in the seminary...
If “ Deutsche Welle “ really wanted to inform their public impartially and objectively, to familiarize them with the case of Fr. D.Oko, was there not a more appropriate person than Fr. Wolfgang Rothe in all of Germany ? Why wasn’t someone else chosen ? For ex. a German bishop or cardinal ? Wouldn’t that be more appropriate?
Or maybe they were just afraid that they would once again hear something similar to what German cardinal Gerhard Müller (the former prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith in Vatican) said already about this case ? Who compared the decision of the Cologne district court with the criminal regime of the Nazi lawyer Hans Frank in occupied by Germans Poland during the Second World War ! When Polish professors and intellectuals were persecuted and murdered !
Who said : “... these judges … they do not realize the criminal nature of certain acts committed by some individuals who live in the Church, but hide themselves behind the shield of impunity afforded by their office” And : “this case should sound alarm bells amongst historically educated people.”. And that he was ashamed that in his home country “it is again possible that a Polish scholar could be convicted for ‘incitement to hatred‘ for publishing a factual report” . Is the opinion of someone who held one of the highest positions in Vatican not authoritative, meaningful ?
Instead, “Deutsche Welle “ preferred to back up Wolfgang Rothe’s accusations with such authority ! They practically formed a tandem with the opponent of Fr. D.Oko! Come on, face both of us – they invite Fr. D.Oko very kindly… if you’re so strong and confident !
Couldn’t this be understood as an unacceptable attempt to interfere in the ongoing trial ? An attempt to put pressure on the judiciary ? Isn’t this an attempt to break elementary legal standards, legal norms ?
Or - maybe that was the point ? To make someone think just that ? Someone – or at least one particular, specific person : Fr. D. Oko… Is this a way to make him believe that the court is biased and his case is already lost ??? That the court’s verdict has already been fixed ? And that it not be favorable for him ? It’s impossible to imagine that he (or his lawyers) failed to notice such an important fact : that “Deutsche Welle“ published an interview with his opponent in the Polish edition just on the eve of the trial !
After all Fr. D.Oko is Polish. And in Poland or in other countries, but especially in Poland there are still a lot of those who remember well what German justice used to be… What did communist or fascist justice mean… They and their descendants may understandable have difficulty trusting german courts.
After all, Germany was once a fascist dictatorship. And then, in the eastern part of it – communist.
And the slogan of those red or brown judges was : "Befehl ist Befehl" (an order is an order) ! Those judges were acting on orders ! This was the case in much of Germany for most of the 20th century. This is why Fr. D.Oko, some of his compatriots, countryman, etc. may still have difficulty trusting german courts !
So the news of this interview must have been like a bolt out of the blue for him ! And maybe someone was counting on that... Was it psychological, very clever preparation of Fr. D.Oko? To induce him into submission ? To make it easier for him to accept the deal, the proposal prepared for him ? And it was effective- he accepted it !
And maybe he or his team, and others have acquired the conviction that an unacceptable attempt to interfere in the ongoing trial have happened… That somebody has attempted to put pressure on the judiciary, to break elementary legal standards and norms… In any case, maybe someone very important would have wanted Fr. D.Oko to think so...
How could this have happened ? Did Wolfgang Rothe have powerful, very important and influential friends, protectors ? (how good it is to have such powerful friends - only a pity that on such a morally questionable case !)
And who dares to jeopardize the prestige of such an important institution as German parliament?
It must have been someone not only very influential, but also somebody who was sure that he will not suffer any consequences of his actions...
And apparently it did not bother him (or them) that he will give the impression that a state publisher dependant on the legislator of Germany is biased. That he has already chosen a side in the pending trial. That he indicates whose side he prefers to win! That will give the impression that the ex-deputy -director of St Pölten seminary, is the ‘preferred’ of “Deutsche Welle “ ! That “Deutsche Welle “ and maybe even Bundestag has indicated who should win the lawsuit !!!
The only people who suffered the penal consequences of the case of St Pölten seminary was Fr. D.Oko, Fr. J. Stöhr - and a Polish seminarian : “ … [he] was convicted of possesion of 1.700 pornographic photos, most of which involved minors. He was given a six-month suspended sentence (the maximum being two years) “  p147 (although he assured his innocence and tried to commit suicide). Haven’t they found about 40000 photos ? 1.700 is just less than 5 %…
Now ask yourselves : Well, and who is responsible for the rest ie about 37.000 photos (+95%) ?
And what about Ewald S. ?
 https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/break ... al-clergy/
 https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/art ... ariusz-oko
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 « German priest performs gay pseudo-blessing in Munich’s gay sauna... » (5 nov 2021)
 « The Defenestration of Poelten » (Jan 21, 2005)
https://www.catholicculture.org/comment ... n-poelten/
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 "Befehl ist Befehl" - "Used wrily when someone attempts to justify questionable actions by referring to rules, laws or orders from higher up."
Let's make a movie!
Suggestion: let's make a movie! Let's write together a movie script - more or less - based on the events described above! I invite everyone to cooperation and I am waiting for your e-mail with ideas, suggestions (talk about it around you!)...
For example, the working title of the film could be:
"Counterattack of the Brotherhood of the Nine Commandments"
Here are some first ideas:
The conflict between the priest of the new religion «the Church of the 9 commandments», who is also the chaplain of a mafia criminal organization, and a traditional Catholic priest
(Warning : Some details are completely different from the story described above, but others agree. The point is that no one should take the characters of the film for real people, but only for - more or less - inspired by them. The film itself intends rather to show some existing socio-religious mechanisms and will be preceded by the traditional warning, "any resemblance to real people is coincidental" etc.).
One of the main scenes takes place in a gay sauna. The mafia boss, his ‘consiliere’, the Chaplain and several other gangsters are present (they are partially undressed, leftovers of luxurious dishes, sophisticated drinks may indicate that some debauchery is coming to an end, it is not very clear whether it is only "homo" / "gay" or not).They talk about the movie "Godfather". The scene when a famous movie director who refuses to do a favor for a mafia boss wakes up terrified in bed with the severed head of his favorite steed made a great impression on them. They ask themselves « How would we do it ? How would we present him such an 'offer he can't refuse'? »
Their chaplain complains that he has a problem with a certain traditional priest (i.e. a priest of some traditional Christian church of "TEN commandments") who continues to criticize him in every possible way, verbally and in writing.
The mob boss agrees to help him. But how to do it ?
Gangster1 : I'll break his bones. This will convince him to give it a rest…
Gangster2 : It's better to kidnap someone from his family…
Boss : Shut up, you two!
Someone present says: He must be presented with ‘an offer he cannot refuse’ ! This slogan is liked by everyone. Yes, that's an idea! However, how and what to do?
Boss to Consiliere: Think of something...
Consiliere: We need to find someone close to him. We also need to check his background, personal life. Do we have access to the police where he lives? Reaching his household staff, e.g. a cook, cleaning lady, janitor… He himself also certainly has some acquaintances (police, courts, lawyers) - this must also be taken into account… Do we have contacts with any of the « familys » that govern that area ?
Consiliere to the Chaplain : first you have to sue him.
Chaplain: However for what, under what pretext?
Consiliere: You will accuse him of ‘a hate speech’ ! After all, he is a primitive, backward, he hates all followers of the new faith! And when you’ve done it, we'll make him 'proposals he can't refuse'... And in one way or another we'll get him convicted and discredited. We will deliver a sudden, destabilizing blow! Let him know that we can do everything that he is not safe! That it is in our hands ! It will be like lightning from the blue! And then it will be possible to make him ‘proposals that cannot be refused’...
However that may not be easy or cheap.
Boss : You're right. Indeed, we have to make him a "proposal" which he will not be able to refuse. However, remember to save his person and his family for now. Take care of it personally Consigleire…
Edward Maliszewski, Paris (France)
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